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Do you worry that, if your loved one relapses, it might be your fault? Do you have trouble setting boundaries with them about their substance use disorder? If so, you might be codependent.

On today’s episode, Michael interviews Chico and Shannon West about codependency, boundaries, giving Al-Anon a try, pre-marital counseling for couples in early recovery, and more.

Chico West is a licensed therapist through his private practice, West Counseling. He provides intervention services, consulting, and workshops in Dallas, Texas, and beyond. Previously he served as CEO and founder of both Gaston House Transitional Living and Casa Colina Treatment Center. Shannon has worked as Chico’s business manager for West Counseling and worked alongside him with Gaston House and Casa Colina. Together they host their podcast, “Filter Optional,” which is available on Spotify, iTunes, and YouTube.


[7:16] Al-Anon, codependence, and boundaries.

[10:42] The recovery language and lingo.

[12:05] Are you minimizing your needs? It will lead to resentment.

[15:36] Are you doing the work?

[18:00] Approaching addiction as a counselor who is also a Christian.

[23:42] Are you concentrating on someone else instead of looking in the mirror?

[27:42] Parenting: COVID, communicating, and social media.

[40:00] How can churches welcome those who have struggled with substance abuse disorders?


Read more about how religious communities can support those who have struggled with addiction here:

About the Author

Michael Walsh

Michael Walsh currently serves as Director of Clinical Outreach for Landmark Recovery. Michael is a Certified Intervention Professional, holds a Master’s degree in counseling and works as a consultant and coach. With more than 25 years of experience in the behavioral health field, Michael has worked extensively with individuals and families and licensed professionals affected by complex issues. He is a current board member of the C4 Recovery Foundation and the past president and CEO of the National Association of Addiction Treatment Providers. Michael has been an advocate for patient and families’ rights, has developed recovery programs at various levels of care, and influenced policy at national and international levels. He also is a sought-after speaker regarding behavioral health issues, treatment and recovery issues, and he advocates for change in the current systems of behavioral health, addiction, and mental health for individuals and families.

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