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 In this episode Zach is joined by Doug Penny, the director of business development for Southern California Recovery Center. Doug and Zach talk through how recovery for someone going through treatment while young, may differ from someone beginning their recovery journey later in life. Following his conversation with Doug, Zach is joined by Jessica Durbin, the Director of Outpatient Services for The Ridge in Kentucky. Zach and Jessica talk though the impact Covid-19 has had on the mental health of her patients, and how the pandemic continues to impact those who may be struggling with their mental health and addiction.


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